{"id":16486,"date":"2010-07-12T20:57:50","date_gmt":"2010-07-13T04:57:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnack\/?p=2372"},"modified":"2010-07-12T20:57:50","modified_gmt":"2010-07-13T04:57:50","slug":"html-isnt-about-web-pages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/12\/html-isnt-about-web-pages\/","title":{"rendered":"HTML isn&#039;t about Web pages"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Or rather, it isn&#8217;t <em>just<\/em> about Web pages. \u00a0Responding to my post about <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnack\/2010\/07\/css-is-the-new-photoshop.html\">CSS as the new Photoshop<\/a>, Neven Mrgan makes some <a href=\"http:\/\/mrgan.tumblr.com\/post\/773403853\/css-visual-effects-tool\">good points<\/a> about HTML &amp; CSS as a general purpose graphical system:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That assumption is that Nack is talking about creating <em>web pages<\/em>. I don\u2019t believe he is&#8230;\u00a0This is not the web Zeldman is interested in. It\u2019s no <em>web<\/em> at all, in fact. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Look at any of Apple\u2019s stores on the iPad &#8211; App Store, iTunes Store, iBookstore. Heck, look at the iTunes Store on your computer: it\u2019s all made with HTML and CSS. Why? Because in the year 2010, if you\u2019re going to be describing layouts, it\u2019s not a bad call to describe them using very well adopted, rapidly developing technologies. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s no pride or glory in tweaking number after number and reloading a page to make sure my drop shadow looks nice.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>On this last point, I&#8217;m hopeful that if Photoshop made it possible to copy\/export styled text and objects as HTML\/CSS, developers would accept the generated code. \u00a0There are only so many ways to specify box dimensions &amp; borders, right?<\/p>\n<p>More broadly, people are clearly interested in doing demanding, print-quality typesetting using HTML, the better to create things like magazines for tablets. \u00a0I&#8217;m encouraged to see work that enables better <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bramstein.com\/projects\/typeset\/\">text breaking<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.aestheticallyloyal.com\/public\/optimize-legibility\/\">kerning pairs &amp; ligatures<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/stuffandnonsense.co.uk\/blog\/about\/proportional_leading_with_css3_media_queries\/\">proportional leading<\/a>, and more. Onward and upward.<\/p>\n<p>One other thing: I&#8217;ve gotten to know Neven a bit after he (justifiably) <a href=\"http:\/\/mrgan.tumblr.com\/post\/235455865\/the-many-sliders-of-photoshop-cs4\">needled<\/a> Photoshop for its <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnack\/2007\/11\/photoshop_as_seen_through_johnny_cash.html\">admitted hodgepodge<\/a> of UI elements. I&#8217;ve never managed to finish my long and detailed response, but in it I talk about how using Web elements (e.g. <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnack\/2009\/12\/webkit_creative_suite_extensibility.html\">embedded WebKit<\/a>) makes it hard&#8211;if not impossible&#8211;to match everything with OS-native controls. \u00a0I go on to cite numerous examples of Apple&#8217;s Web content not matching Aqua, etc. \u00a0The point is, the more powerful &amp; ubiquitous Web content becomes, the more we&#8217;ll deal with the challenges of making the complete desktop\/online experience feel cohesive.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Or rather, it isn&#8217;t just about Web pages. \u00a0Responding to my post about CSS as the new Photoshop, Neven Mrgan makes some good points about HTML &amp; CSS as a general purpose graphical system: That assumption is that Nack is talking about creating web pages. I don\u2019t believe he is&#8230;\u00a0This is not the web Zeldman [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16486"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16486"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16486\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16486"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16486"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16486"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}