{"id":15889,"date":"2009-06-20T12:55:18","date_gmt":"2009-06-20T12:55:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnackdev\/2009\/06\/ask-tog.html"},"modified":"2009-06-20T12:55:18","modified_gmt":"2009-06-20T12:55:18","slug":"ask_tog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/2009\/06\/20\/ask_tog\/","title":{"rendered":"&quot;Ask Tog&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of weekends ago, in the course of reviewing\/culling hundreds of JDI feature suggestions, I was getting a little crispy.  Amidst lots of good suggestions and the occasional chunks of profanity &amp; ignorance, I saw the following:<br \/>\n&#8220;Ask Tog.&#8221;<br \/>\nTog, in case you&#8217;re unaware, is <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bruce_Tognazzini\">Bruce Tognazzini<\/a>, the pioneering interface designer who&#8217;s worked at Apple, Sun, and other companies.  He largely defined what it means for a UI to be &#8220;Mac-like.&#8221;<br \/>\nWithout more info, I can only guess at the commenter&#8217;s tone &amp; intention. For all I know it was breezy &amp; trying to be helpful.  In the context of some other remarks from Mac users*, however, I read it as lazy shorthand for &#8220;You suck. Be more like Apple&#8221; (without any useful, actionable details, of course).<br \/>\nAs it happened, I&#8217;d been reading AskTog.com earlier in the day and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.asktog.com\/columns\/075AppleFlatlandPart1.html\">saw the following<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>20 years ago, there was a simple application on the Mac for doing basic edits on photos. It was called Photoshop. Today, Photoshop is a powerhouse of sophistication, capable of working miracles in the hands of a professional. Adobe has been in lock-step with their users, increasing Photoshop\u2019s sophistication even as their users increased in theirs&#8230; A new user can become productive in Photoshop in 10 minutes, even if it takes another 10 years to learn everything.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure Bruce could point out plenty of shortcomings in the Photoshop UI&#8211;as I <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnack\/2005\/10\/psst--wanna_see.html\">often<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.adobe.com\/jnack\/2007\/11\/photoshop_as_se.html\">do<\/a>&#8211;but it was still nice to read his observations.  I don&#8217;t take them as some kind of absolution, and of course we&#8217;ll keep grinding away at usability issues (more details on that soon), but hearing some recent props from the original Mac interface guy felt good.<br \/>\n<i>* Personal fave: &#8220;Make the mac version look like a mother f______ macintosh program. Jesus f___.&#8221;  Classy, constructive, and specific, just like I like &#8217;em.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of weekends ago, in the course of reviewing\/culling hundreds of JDI feature suggestions, I was getting a little crispy. Amidst lots of good suggestions and the occasional chunks of profanity &amp; ignorance, I saw the following: &#8220;Ask Tog.&#8221; Tog, in case you&#8217;re unaware, is Bruce Tognazzini, the pioneering interface designer who&#8217;s worked at [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15889"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15889"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15889\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15889"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15889"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jnack.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15889"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}