Finally! However: “An error (302 Moved Temporarily) has occured in response to this request.” That’s for PS. So I get nada, so far. [Hmm–it works fine for me in Safari. Maybe it’s a Java conflict. –J.]
Arghh!!!! English Windows version will not download with Firefox. Will not download with Opera. It will download with something out of the trashcan called Internet Explorer 7. THIS IS NOT FUNNY, ADOBE! ps. On broadband this download is slower than ______. So please wait until my download finishes.
I got my copy of Design Premium yesterday and installed it.
There appears to be a major problem with Fireworks. My copy will not launch and from what I see on the web, numerous other people are encountering the same problem. Fortunately, Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Acrobat, the 3 programs I use almost every day, are all launching properly.
I first used Opera, which gave me that error, then I tried Firefox — and it worked fine. There’s probably “some issue” with Opera and that Java-based download manager.
Poking around Photoshop CS4…
While the style of the tool palette is cleaner than before, I still think it’s a mistake that the tools are not clickable across the entire width of the palette — it’s a lost opportunity for taking advantage of the cursor-catching power of the screen edge. For example, with the Mac menu bar, you can just throw the cursor up against the top of the screen and click to select a menu — there’s no way to miss and no need to back track before a click is registered. Not so with the tool palette. The padding around each tool makes it so that just throwing the cursor against the side of the screen and clicking will accomplish nothing. You have to carefully back track and then click. Fitt’s law, you know.
I also think it looks rather odd and flat the way the new palettes lack drop shadows. The loss of depth, in my opinion, actually adds to visual clutter as it almost looks like the palettes are stuck to the work space rather than floating above it.
Aside from these two things, the upgrade looks pretty cool. There is a lot more interesting new stuff in this upgrade than in a lot of past upgrades, although it’s a shame that my pitiful G4 PowerBook can’t take advantage of the hardware acceleration. The lack of smoothness at all zoom levels has been a thorn in my side for what seems like a decade. Oh well.
Hi John,
How do these installers affect a current CS3 installation? Any tips, info, we need to know before trying these out? (I am concerned about my CS3 activation).
thanks! [There should be no impact whatsoever on your CS3 installation. –J.]
Photoshop 11 (CS4) working very well, faster than 10.x on my machine, and Bridge 3.x (CS4)screams in comparison to CS3. Good job!
Unfortunately, cache management in Bridge is still poor. The global cache purge is still broken, as it was in the previous version. The local purge cache in the Tools menu works fine. See http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.59b7045b/0
Woah! Bridge tryout available for download?!
Let me at it! I use Bridge all the time to manage huge .PSD files, but the CS3 version just takes sooooo long to preview anything. I’ve heard the new version is much faster.
I’d seriously consider upgrading my whole CS3 suite just for Bridge, *IF* it works as advertised.
So I went to that page to look for a Bridge tryout, as you mentioned, but there’s no sign of it.
Are you saying I’d have to download a whole Suite tryout in order to just try out Bridge? [You can download just about any CS4 app to get the Bridge tryout. I can’t promise that we can make the loading/previewing of gigantic files much faster, though. I hope you’ll take the app for a spin & will find it to your liking. –J.]
Hey, John. Quick note to let you know that I — one of Adobe’s vocal critics — have for the past week or so been evaluating Photoshop CS4 and Illustrator CS4, and I feel compelled to tell you that these new versions are nicely done. [Thanks, Mark–really glad to hear it. It’s human nature to comment only when things are going badly, so it’s nice to hear about the other side of the equation. –J.]
Two gripes — the installers and the software activation — remain, but these have always been cursory complaints having little to do with the software itself. Likewise, the absence of OS X drop shadows which makes the palettes and the Media Player window seem strangely one dimensional and alien in the OS X interface, are minor gripes. What I’m noticing that compelled me to write are the functional improvements in Photoshop such as the smooth zoom magnifications (which I can only now appreciate having bought a new Mac), and the vastly improved pathfinder filters in Illustrator which finally seem to behave the way they did in the early days — that is, they work. [I used to complain to the Illustrator team about them not going back and polishing enough existing features. This cycle they’ve really spent time on the details. The Appearance panel is finally exactly what I’ve wanted since it debuted in AI9! It’s much more like the one in Fireworks. –J.]
I also noticed some of Illustrator’s tools acting in a more FreeHand user-friendly way, which is a good thing. I don’t want to go into huge detail about all of this, but suffice it to say that, the app icons notwithstanding, I think the CS4 upgrade is terrific. [Awesome. And, “No comment” about the icons. 😉 –J.]
I can tell somebody has actually been listening to the complaints and acting on them, because there aren’t just large functional improvements, but a lot of little stuff has been tweaked and polished in various subtle ways that only an infuriating nitpicker like me would notice. So yeah, I’m impressed. Now all I need is a large influx of cash.
You know, it’s funny about the icons. For all of my ridiculing, I almost like them. Yet I don’t. The Lightroom icon with its subtle graphite color is understated and subdued, and there’s a kind of elegance to the type treatment, but get even four of these together in the dock and suddenly it looks like a kid’s xylophone down there. I appreciate their boldness — it took guts to approve them and stick with them after the uproar — but I think in the end they’re a little too high concept, if that makes any sense. Ultimately, they’re an improvement over the (admittedly beautiful) butterfly, dahlia etc of the original CS icons, but I think they just stick out too much. Which is sort of ironic considering how minimalist they are. They need to fit in a bit more, and need something more than hieroglyphs and color coding to set them apart.
But of course, this has already been discussed ad nauseam.
Anyway, yeah — so far it’s Illustrator that seems the most improved to me. I actually muttered “wow” out loud when I threw a bunch of shapes into a random pile and pathfindered the bejeezus out of them and it just worked. No warnings. No errors. No scolds about groups or layers or any of that other annoying stuff that was so common in previous versions. Illustrator is — dare I say it? — fun to use again. That’s key. [Illustrator PM David Macy says, “‘Fun to use again’ is exactly the kind of thing I like to hear! Thanks.” –J.]
Putting my money where my mouth is, here’s what I mean about how the Creative Suite application icons could be improved. In this example, the Illustrator icon keeps the current general idea of a simple, colored tile while taking cues from its own PostScript document icon to become more, well, iconic with subdued colors and an OS X tilt. Of course, I used the Ai CS4 demo for this. 😉
I downloaded the Photoshop CS4 trial version three weeks ago. ACR 5.2 is worth the upgrade, but I’m not too impressed with the “enhancements” to Photoshop 11; they’re not bad, just nothing to get too excited about, as ACR 5.2 is. 🙂
The performance and stability of Bridge 3.x are much improved, but Bridge 2.x was soooo bad, that these fixes should have been part of a free update.
The Photoshop 11 documentation is very, very poor. See my entry here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-74aaa.html
It’s definitely ACR 5.2 that justifies the upgrade, not the rest.
On a positive note, Photoshop CS4 runs very, very well on my officially unsupported Mac G4.
Dual bootable, DP MDD 1.25GHz G4 (2004), maxed out at 2GB of RAM, both Spotlight and Dashboard disabled, Photoshop primary scratch disk on dedicated 160GB internal drive, at least 100GB available on each of the four internal drives, up to 300GB on some. Counting external FW drives just over 1TB of drive space available. nVidia GeForce 7800 GS 425MHz 256 MB graphics display card. Processor napping enabled through CHUD 3.5.2.
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It is five months later and I still get that “302 Moved Temporarily” error when trying to download the trial version of Photoshop using Opera.
Thanks William Chinn for the tip that the download works using IE7, from the error I thought Adobe was doing some kind of site renovation…
i’m very upset.I just want to download a trial of some IT softwares like Adobe Illustrator CS4, Adobe Indesign CS4 and Corel Draw x3.please help me out soon.
Oooh! Thanks a bunch.
Finally! However: “An error (302 Moved Temporarily) has occured in response to this request.” That’s for PS. So I get nada, so far.
[Hmm–it works fine for me in Safari. Maybe it’s a Java conflict. –J.]
Arghh!!!! English Windows version will not download with Firefox. Will not download with Opera. It will download with something out of the trashcan called Internet Explorer 7. THIS IS NOT FUNNY, ADOBE! ps. On broadband this download is slower than ______. So please wait until my download finishes.
I got my copy of Design Premium yesterday and installed it.
There appears to be a major problem with Fireworks. My copy will not launch and from what I see on the web, numerous other people are encountering the same problem. Fortunately, Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Acrobat, the 3 programs I use almost every day, are all launching properly.
I first used Opera, which gave me that error, then I tried Firefox — and it worked fine. There’s probably “some issue” with Opera and that Java-based download manager.
Poking around Photoshop CS4…
While the style of the tool palette is cleaner than before, I still think it’s a mistake that the tools are not clickable across the entire width of the palette — it’s a lost opportunity for taking advantage of the cursor-catching power of the screen edge. For example, with the Mac menu bar, you can just throw the cursor up against the top of the screen and click to select a menu — there’s no way to miss and no need to back track before a click is registered. Not so with the tool palette. The padding around each tool makes it so that just throwing the cursor against the side of the screen and clicking will accomplish nothing. You have to carefully back track and then click. Fitt’s law, you know.
I also think it looks rather odd and flat the way the new palettes lack drop shadows. The loss of depth, in my opinion, actually adds to visual clutter as it almost looks like the palettes are stuck to the work space rather than floating above it.
Aside from these two things, the upgrade looks pretty cool. There is a lot more interesting new stuff in this upgrade than in a lot of past upgrades, although it’s a shame that my pitiful G4 PowerBook can’t take advantage of the hardware acceleration. The lack of smoothness at all zoom levels has been a thorn in my side for what seems like a decade. Oh well.
Hi John,
How do these installers affect a current CS3 installation? Any tips, info, we need to know before trying these out? (I am concerned about my CS3 activation).
thanks!
[There should be no impact whatsoever on your CS3 installation. –J.]
This is really a great news…Thanks Adobe….
Download worked fine for me in Firefox. Er, well yea its a hefty file and my ‘puter or dsl hic-up’d and had to start over.
Could your engineers please read this article and do someting about it? http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/
No need to publish this post, just share with your team.
Hi John,
I’d love to hear your comments regarding the Adobe installer for CS4 as described by Pierre Igot here:
http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/
Thanks
Eric
Someone at Adobe really needs to do something about this. There is a lot of ill will among customers because of this sort of thing:
Photoshop 11 (CS4) working very well, faster than 10.x on my machine, and Bridge 3.x (CS4)screams in comparison to CS3. Good job!
Unfortunately, cache management in Bridge is still poor. The global cache purge is still broken, as it was in the previous version. The local purge cache in the Tools menu works fine. See
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.59b7045b/0
Hmmm…
The url didn’t show up. Guess I should have previewed. Try it again:
http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/
Woah! Bridge tryout available for download?!
Let me at it! I use Bridge all the time to manage huge .PSD files, but the CS3 version just takes sooooo long to preview anything. I’ve heard the new version is much faster.
I’d seriously consider upgrading my whole CS3 suite just for Bridge, *IF* it works as advertised.
So I went to that page to look for a Bridge tryout, as you mentioned, but there’s no sign of it.
Are you saying I’d have to download a whole Suite tryout in order to just try out Bridge?
[You can download just about any CS4 app to get the Bridge tryout. I can’t promise that we can make the loading/previewing of gigantic files much faster, though. I hope you’ll take the app for a spin & will find it to your liking. –J.]
Hey, John. Quick note to let you know that I — one of Adobe’s vocal critics — have for the past week or so been evaluating Photoshop CS4 and Illustrator CS4, and I feel compelled to tell you that these new versions are nicely done.
[Thanks, Mark–really glad to hear it. It’s human nature to comment only when things are going badly, so it’s nice to hear about the other side of the equation. –J.]
Two gripes — the installers and the software activation — remain, but these have always been cursory complaints having little to do with the software itself. Likewise, the absence of OS X drop shadows which makes the palettes and the Media Player window seem strangely one dimensional and alien in the OS X interface, are minor gripes. What I’m noticing that compelled me to write are the functional improvements in Photoshop such as the smooth zoom magnifications (which I can only now appreciate having bought a new Mac), and the vastly improved pathfinder filters in Illustrator which finally seem to behave the way they did in the early days — that is, they work.
[I used to complain to the Illustrator team about them not going back and polishing enough existing features. This cycle they’ve really spent time on the details. The Appearance panel is finally exactly what I’ve wanted since it debuted in AI9! It’s much more like the one in Fireworks. –J.]
I also noticed some of Illustrator’s tools acting in a more FreeHand user-friendly way, which is a good thing. I don’t want to go into huge detail about all of this, but suffice it to say that, the app icons notwithstanding, I think the CS4 upgrade is terrific.
[Awesome. And, “No comment” about the icons. 😉 –J.]
I can tell somebody has actually been listening to the complaints and acting on them, because there aren’t just large functional improvements, but a lot of little stuff has been tweaked and polished in various subtle ways that only an infuriating nitpicker like me would notice. So yeah, I’m impressed. Now all I need is a large influx of cash.
You know, it’s funny about the icons. For all of my ridiculing, I almost like them. Yet I don’t. The Lightroom icon with its subtle graphite color is understated and subdued, and there’s a kind of elegance to the type treatment, but get even four of these together in the dock and suddenly it looks like a kid’s xylophone down there. I appreciate their boldness — it took guts to approve them and stick with them after the uproar — but I think in the end they’re a little too high concept, if that makes any sense. Ultimately, they’re an improvement over the (admittedly beautiful) butterfly, dahlia etc of the original CS icons, but I think they just stick out too much. Which is sort of ironic considering how minimalist they are. They need to fit in a bit more, and need something more than hieroglyphs and color coding to set them apart.
But of course, this has already been discussed ad nauseam.
Anyway, yeah — so far it’s Illustrator that seems the most improved to me. I actually muttered “wow” out loud when I threw a bunch of shapes into a random pile and pathfindered the bejeezus out of them and it just worked. No warnings. No errors. No scolds about groups or layers or any of that other annoying stuff that was so common in previous versions. Illustrator is — dare I say it? — fun to use again. That’s key.
[Illustrator PM David Macy says, “‘Fun to use again’ is exactly the kind of thing I like to hear! Thanks.” –J.]
Putting my money where my mouth is, here’s what I mean about how the Creative Suite application icons could be improved. In this example, the Illustrator icon keeps the current general idea of a simple, colored tile while taking cues from its own PostScript document icon to become more, well, iconic with subdued colors and an OS X tilt. Of course, I used the Ai CS4 demo for this. 😉
I downloaded the Photoshop CS4 trial version three weeks ago. ACR 5.2 is worth the upgrade, but I’m not too impressed with the “enhancements” to Photoshop 11; they’re not bad, just nothing to get too excited about, as ACR 5.2 is. 🙂
The performance and stability of Bridge 3.x are much improved, but Bridge 2.x was soooo bad, that these fixes should have been part of a free update.
The Photoshop 11 documentation is very, very poor. See my entry here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-74aaa.html
It’s definitely ACR 5.2 that justifies the upgrade, not the rest.
On a positive note, Photoshop CS4 runs very, very well on my officially unsupported Mac G4.
Dual bootable, DP MDD 1.25GHz G4 (2004), maxed out at 2GB of RAM, both Spotlight and Dashboard disabled, Photoshop primary scratch disk on dedicated 160GB internal drive, at least 100GB available on each of the four internal drives, up to 300GB on some. Counting external FW drives just over 1TB of drive space available. nVidia GeForce 7800 GS 425MHz 256 MB graphics display card. Processor napping enabled through CHUD 3.5.2.
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Is Adobe’s Photohop 11 the same as Adobe’s Photshop CS4
It is five months later and I still get that “302 Moved Temporarily” error when trying to download the trial version of Photoshop using Opera.
Thanks William Chinn for the tip that the download works using IE7, from the error I thought Adobe was doing some kind of site renovation…
Can you help me? Before I knew it was broken, I “cleaned up” using the cache global purge option. My thumbnails are messed up. Can this be corrected?
i’m very upset.I just want to download a trial of some IT softwares like Adobe Illustrator CS4, Adobe Indesign CS4 and Corel Draw x3.please help me out soon.